I used to be a Carebear till I took an Arrow to the knee
Sunday 10 February 2013
Missioning and You
O.k so here we go. a bit later than intended but real life yadayaada.
This post is mainly going to be aimed at new players wanting to look at supporting their pvp habit. One of the main detractors from getting your stuff blown up in Eve is replacing it, I've recently been training up some newbies and the chief worry was not being able to replace their ships, or indeed worrying about the loss. To overcome that you of course need a steady income.
So I took my neutral corp alt Nyaris and decided to see how easily I could make some cash from scratch.
Nyaris is a Minmatar she was already trained up to a Hurricane so I decided to cross train for a better overview.
After some thought (and the fact that Aracimia is Caldari/Amarr trained already) I went for Gallente.
So I trained up Gallente frigate 4 and Small Hybrid turrets and got myself an Incursus.
So I have my frigate, now I need a prospective employer. I did a bit of hunting and I settled on Roden Shipyards. So I headed out to Verge vendor, found a level one Security agent and got cracking.
Now as we all know Missions in Hi sec start at level and go up tp level 4, to do a level 4 you need standings. To any new player trying this there are two skills you absoloutely need.
Connections: Skill at interacting with friendly NPCs. 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Criminal Connections.
Negotiation: Skill at agent negotiation. 5% additional pay per skill level for agent missions.
These require you to have trained Social to 3 for both. This will greatly speed up the time it takes to unlock the next tier of missions as well as increasing their payout.
Next it's important to have a gameplan. Predecide what you're aiming for and what to train next. Programs such as Evemon help a great deal with this.
For me it went like this:
Incursus - Training up hybrid turrets, gunnery, your support skills (Engineering,Elctronics, Navigation and targetting skills, as well as in my case armour repair/resistance)
Algos: This ones Optional a Catalyst is another option but I'm going the drone route here
Vexor - Medium Hybrids, flesh out gunnery support skills, get t2 weapon upgrades as well as getting Drone skills up for tech 2 drones, and armour resistances. Here you can also look into further fleshing out Drone support skills and additional eletronics and engineering skills.
Myrmidon: Following down the drone route this Battlecruiser will chew up anything as well as being a continuation of the Vexor.
Dominix: The pinnacle of your training this mission boat will allow you to also go for sentry drones and benefit from all your previous training
What we have now is a plan that focuses on drones. Unfortunately this was done pre-retribution. However I still used these ships effectively afterwards, It requires you to pay attention a bit more but it can be done.
Now, missions quite often have special restrictions or requirements. It's always a good idea for you to familiarise yourself with what you'll be facing. Eve-Survival is the best place you can find to do so, simply select the mission you're offered and check out what you're facing. This helps you complete the machine quicker and therefore increase the amount of ISK you're making.
Also be aware that mission ships use specific resist modules based on what you're fighting. See here for more info
You'll also notice these ships share a common characteristic by the mods and weapons they use, this also gives them a very similar play style. Again this allows you the new player to specialise letting you fight effectively in a reasonably short amount of time.
By bringing the Negotiations skill up you vastly increase the yield of missions. You'll be raking in enough cash to keep you in pvp ships in no time! Plus those skills you've taken will also apply to your pvp ships as well!
So what you may ask is the catch?
Well, Missioning is borrrrringggggggggg. Like really really dull. Not as dull as mining, not by a long shot, but you're going to need to devote some time to this peeps and you will get tired of it fast.
You can mix it up a little and do varying cash generation types. But I highly reccomend getting into a player corp and doing it with friends, speeds up the rewards, reduces the risk and it gives you someone you can go pewpew other people with. It's a win win.
Anyway I'll expand on this later, but check the sites I've linked as well as Eve Uni. It's worth the effort however. Nyaris started with 20 mill ISK, Not only can I now earn enough on here to pimp out my domi, but I also bought my main a shiny legion :D
As with everything in eve, patience is a virtue, stick to the plan.
This post is mainly going to be aimed at new players wanting to look at supporting their pvp habit. One of the main detractors from getting your stuff blown up in Eve is replacing it, I've recently been training up some newbies and the chief worry was not being able to replace their ships, or indeed worrying about the loss. To overcome that you of course need a steady income.
So I took my neutral corp alt Nyaris and decided to see how easily I could make some cash from scratch.
Nyaris is a Minmatar she was already trained up to a Hurricane so I decided to cross train for a better overview.
After some thought (and the fact that Aracimia is Caldari/Amarr trained already) I went for Gallente.
So I trained up Gallente frigate 4 and Small Hybrid turrets and got myself an Incursus.
So I have my frigate, now I need a prospective employer. I did a bit of hunting and I settled on Roden Shipyards. So I headed out to Verge vendor, found a level one Security agent and got cracking.
Now as we all know Missions in Hi sec start at level and go up tp level 4, to do a level 4 you need standings. To any new player trying this there are two skills you absoloutely need.
Connections: Skill at interacting with friendly NPCs. 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Criminal Connections.
Negotiation: Skill at agent negotiation. 5% additional pay per skill level for agent missions.
These require you to have trained Social to 3 for both. This will greatly speed up the time it takes to unlock the next tier of missions as well as increasing their payout.
Next it's important to have a gameplan. Predecide what you're aiming for and what to train next. Programs such as Evemon help a great deal with this.
For me it went like this:
Incursus - Training up hybrid turrets, gunnery, your support skills (Engineering,Elctronics, Navigation and targetting skills, as well as in my case armour repair/resistance)
Algos: This ones Optional a Catalyst is another option but I'm going the drone route here
Vexor - Medium Hybrids, flesh out gunnery support skills, get t2 weapon upgrades as well as getting Drone skills up for tech 2 drones, and armour resistances. Here you can also look into further fleshing out Drone support skills and additional eletronics and engineering skills.
Myrmidon: Following down the drone route this Battlecruiser will chew up anything as well as being a continuation of the Vexor.
Dominix: The pinnacle of your training this mission boat will allow you to also go for sentry drones and benefit from all your previous training
What we have now is a plan that focuses on drones. Unfortunately this was done pre-retribution. However I still used these ships effectively afterwards, It requires you to pay attention a bit more but it can be done.
Now, missions quite often have special restrictions or requirements. It's always a good idea for you to familiarise yourself with what you'll be facing. Eve-Survival is the best place you can find to do so, simply select the mission you're offered and check out what you're facing. This helps you complete the machine quicker and therefore increase the amount of ISK you're making.
Also be aware that mission ships use specific resist modules based on what you're fighting. See here for more info
You'll also notice these ships share a common characteristic by the mods and weapons they use, this also gives them a very similar play style. Again this allows you the new player to specialise letting you fight effectively in a reasonably short amount of time.
By bringing the Negotiations skill up you vastly increase the yield of missions. You'll be raking in enough cash to keep you in pvp ships in no time! Plus those skills you've taken will also apply to your pvp ships as well!
So what you may ask is the catch?
Well, Missioning is borrrrringggggggggg. Like really really dull. Not as dull as mining, not by a long shot, but you're going to need to devote some time to this peeps and you will get tired of it fast.
You can mix it up a little and do varying cash generation types. But I highly reccomend getting into a player corp and doing it with friends, speeds up the rewards, reduces the risk and it gives you someone you can go pewpew other people with. It's a win win.
Anyway I'll expand on this later, but check the sites I've linked as well as Eve Uni. It's worth the effort however. Nyaris started with 20 mill ISK, Not only can I now earn enough on here to pimp out my domi, but I also bought my main a shiny legion :D
As with everything in eve, patience is a virtue, stick to the plan.
Monday 10 December 2012
Hunting Spirit
Saw this video On youtube the otherday.
I have to say this guy has the right idea on attitude. Enjoy!
A word of caution. This is not me! I'm not this good.
The good the bad and the flashy yellow
Welp, the missioning blogs going o.k, I'm almost into a Domi. Well, I am into a Domi but I need to up the drone skills, so we're talking 6 more days and I can assemble a complete first post for the overview.
While I'm on the subject, I've been seeing alot of QQ about drones of late. Most of it's unfounded imho, I've still been using them happily, even without the withdraw redrop technique it's possible to use them still.
It just requires you to pay attnention. But hey, paying attention to whats going on around you is kinda key when you're on your jack jones in 0.0 so no biggie there.
They called me paranoid HA! That badger was watching me I swear it......
Anyyyyyway, moving on
The Bounty system seems to be this weeks whinge topic. I got a 1 mill bounty on me from a corp mate for a giggle. Frankly I'm not fussed. When the novelty wears off it'll drop down. Just more incentive to get out into low/null maybe pick up an extra few ISK having fun roaming.
Always try to look at it in a positive light. Every cloud does have a silver lining after all. The silver lining here being LE/Criminal/Suspect flags! \o/
To sum this up for anyone who's not been paying attention:
If's it's Flashy yellow it's a suspect, Shoot it.
If it's Flashy Red it's a criminal. Shoot It
If it's Flashy Blue you have a limited engagement (LE) flag with that player. KEEP SHOOTING.
I had a friend open up on a suspect and he stopped shooting when they turned flashy blue as he didn't know he could still fight and his target warped off. Embarassing. Don't be that guy.
Also be aware of station games. That guy flashy yellow outside the station WANTS you to shoot him. He WON'T be playing fair. However bring a couple of friends and you can have some fun. I almost got me a free guardian kill 2 days ago when the guy deliberately baiting attackers brough a neutral logi in and right out again before he could finish 1 rep cycle when I landed on grid almost on top of him. Shoot suspects on gates, by the time LE's wear off you can be long gone. Goto nullsec get a suspect flag then go back into high and see wha kind of fun you can have. You can screw people around and mess up canflippers station campers and neutral logi.. Thats why I love crimewatch.
While I'm on the subject, I've been seeing alot of QQ about drones of late. Most of it's unfounded imho, I've still been using them happily, even without the withdraw redrop technique it's possible to use them still.
It just requires you to pay attnention. But hey, paying attention to whats going on around you is kinda key when you're on your jack jones in 0.0 so no biggie there.
They called me paranoid HA! That badger was watching me I swear it......
Anyyyyyway, moving on
The Bounty system seems to be this weeks whinge topic. I got a 1 mill bounty on me from a corp mate for a giggle. Frankly I'm not fussed. When the novelty wears off it'll drop down. Just more incentive to get out into low/null maybe pick up an extra few ISK having fun roaming.
Always try to look at it in a positive light. Every cloud does have a silver lining after all. The silver lining here being LE/Criminal/Suspect flags! \o/
To sum this up for anyone who's not been paying attention:
If's it's Flashy yellow it's a suspect, Shoot it.
If it's Flashy Red it's a criminal. Shoot It
If it's Flashy Blue you have a limited engagement (LE) flag with that player. KEEP SHOOTING.
I had a friend open up on a suspect and he stopped shooting when they turned flashy blue as he didn't know he could still fight and his target warped off. Embarassing. Don't be that guy.
Also be aware of station games. That guy flashy yellow outside the station WANTS you to shoot him. He WON'T be playing fair. However bring a couple of friends and you can have some fun. I almost got me a free guardian kill 2 days ago when the guy deliberately baiting attackers brough a neutral logi in and right out again before he could finish 1 rep cycle when I landed on grid almost on top of him. Shoot suspects on gates, by the time LE's wear off you can be long gone. Goto nullsec get a suspect flag then go back into high and see wha kind of fun you can have. You can screw people around and mess up canflippers station campers and neutral logi.. Thats why I love crimewatch.
Thursday 29 November 2012
Dem Hybrids
I also wanted to say how much I'm loving Hybrids, I'm working on this missioning guide/overview and as part of the process I cross trained into Gallente, currently sitting in a Brutix with meta4 railguns and HOLY SMOKES!
I'm a brawler, used to being in your face with Auto Cannons or rockets. But doing huge damage from 60k away with crap skills gives me a warm little glow. I think I'll be able to rig up some interesting Algos builds for sure when I spend all that cash
Little Touches
A friend of mine recently started playing Eve for the first time. The freedom to violence peoples boats was the key draw, I'm chuffed he's enjoying it so far. But it was the fact that GM's still send messages to new players asking them how they're doing and if they need help that got me.
GJ CCP, row row fight the power!
GJ CCP, row row fight the power!
Friday 23 November 2012
A change is good as a rest
So things have been quiet lately.
Time for a recap.
Since my Corp left TNT and returned to HiSec and FW I'm ashamed to admit I have been horribly horribly bored.
I think the main reason is it just feels like more of the same. Don't get me wrong I found you could get some good small gang/solo pvp in FW but you could in Null if you knew where to go/look. Blobs are still the order of the day. Maybe I was just looking at it wrong.
So I decided to use my alt for a change of pace, go back to basics and learn how to not only pvp but to support myself and my pvp habit.
So enter Nyaris, my little NPC corp alt. 1st thing was to get her into a 1 man corp, for wardeccing purposes as well as ditching that pesky corp tax. That accomplished my new corp Fade to Darkness [-FtD-] (Yeah I posted my corp name, face, bothered). Is ready to roll. Time to look at my avaricious options:
I'm going to be trying each of these in a separate blog post, so for now I'll summarise.
PI:
Planetary Interaction. I'll be the first to admit this confuses the crap outta me. I'm going to need to research this more. But making POS fuel seems to be a good investment.
Mining
Nyaris is also trained up to basic mining barge and t2 strip miners, I'm also a bit of a James315 fanboy so I'm a little pensive about trying this, I don't hold miners in that high a regard. Still in for a penny in for a full hold of plagiclase
Missions
Old Faithful. I'm going to be moving to a new area for this (Gallente space) as Peace and Order missions are getting really boring now. I've a Passivecane I'm using for it while I cross train into a Hyp.
Incursions.
Not sure Nya has the skills for this but as and when the Hyp is ready (Another 40 or so days) then I'll also be joining the incursion channels and see what I can do.
Bounty Hunting
This will be after the expansion releases I'm quite interested in the idea as it promotes two of my preferred activities. Making ISK and solo PvP.
Exploration
This is going to need some extra training time, and frankly I'm not convinced of it's profitability, I'm also going to double this one up with salvaging. I want to do all this on one character so probably will be the last option for this series.
Hang on a minute what about Trading, Research, manufacturing and market PVP?
Well to be honest thats going to take too long to train into on top of everything else. While I would like to cover these options I believe I'll do that as a seperate section so I'll cover those another time.
If anyone has any other suggestions to add in feel free to let me know at aracimia@gmail.com in game Nyaris Wolfe or in the comments below! Happy flying peeps.
Time for a recap.
Since my Corp left TNT and returned to HiSec and FW I'm ashamed to admit I have been horribly horribly bored.
I think the main reason is it just feels like more of the same. Don't get me wrong I found you could get some good small gang/solo pvp in FW but you could in Null if you knew where to go/look. Blobs are still the order of the day. Maybe I was just looking at it wrong.
So I decided to use my alt for a change of pace, go back to basics and learn how to not only pvp but to support myself and my pvp habit.
So enter Nyaris, my little NPC corp alt. 1st thing was to get her into a 1 man corp, for wardeccing purposes as well as ditching that pesky corp tax. That accomplished my new corp Fade to Darkness [-FtD-] (Yeah I posted my corp name, face, bothered). Is ready to roll. Time to look at my avaricious options:
I'm going to be trying each of these in a separate blog post, so for now I'll summarise.
PI:
Planetary Interaction. I'll be the first to admit this confuses the crap outta me. I'm going to need to research this more. But making POS fuel seems to be a good investment.
Mining
Nyaris is also trained up to basic mining barge and t2 strip miners, I'm also a bit of a James315 fanboy so I'm a little pensive about trying this, I don't hold miners in that high a regard. Still in for a penny in for a full hold of plagiclase
Missions
Old Faithful. I'm going to be moving to a new area for this (Gallente space) as Peace and Order missions are getting really boring now. I've a Passivecane I'm using for it while I cross train into a Hyp.
Incursions.
Not sure Nya has the skills for this but as and when the Hyp is ready (Another 40 or so days) then I'll also be joining the incursion channels and see what I can do.
Bounty Hunting
This will be after the expansion releases I'm quite interested in the idea as it promotes two of my preferred activities. Making ISK and solo PvP.
Exploration
This is going to need some extra training time, and frankly I'm not convinced of it's profitability, I'm also going to double this one up with salvaging. I want to do all this on one character so probably will be the last option for this series.
Hang on a minute what about Trading, Research, manufacturing and market PVP?
Well to be honest thats going to take too long to train into on top of everything else. While I would like to cover these options I believe I'll do that as a seperate section so I'll cover those another time.
If anyone has any other suggestions to add in feel free to let me know at aracimia@gmail.com in game Nyaris Wolfe or in the comments below! Happy flying peeps.
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